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	<title>Comments on: Firebug Net Panel: more accurate timing</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Souders</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/11/03/firebug-net-panel-more-accurate-timing/#comment-1195</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Souders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 08:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Manjusha: Here&#039;s Honza&#039;s blog post: http://www.softwareishard.com/blog/firebug/introduction-to-firebug-net-panel/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Manjusha: Here&#8217;s Honza&#8217;s blog post: <a href="http://www.softwareishard.com/blog/firebug/introduction-to-firebug-net-panel/" rel="nofollow">http://www.softwareishard.com/blog/firebug/introduction-to-firebug-net-panel/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Manjusha</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/11/03/firebug-net-panel-more-accurate-timing/#comment-1191</link>
		<dc:creator>Manjusha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Steve,

Could you explain what &quot;connecting&quot; and &quot;queueing&quot; time measurements as indicated on Firebug&#039;s net panel mean? Been googling for that, and didn&#039;t come across a clear definition.

TIA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Steve,</p>
<p>Could you explain what &#8220;connecting&#8221; and &#8220;queueing&#8221; time measurements as indicated on Firebug&#8217;s net panel mean? Been googling for that, and didn&#8217;t come across a clear definition.</p>
<p>TIA!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/11/03/firebug-net-panel-more-accurate-timing/#comment-1060</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I didn&#039;t quite understand that from your 5th paragraph.   Thanks a bunch!  I appreciate your super quick responses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I didn&#8217;t quite understand that from your 5th paragraph.   Thanks a bunch!  I appreciate your super quick responses!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Souders</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/11/03/firebug-net-panel-more-accurate-timing/#comment-1058</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Souders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave: All packet sniffers that I&#039;ve used show everything that gets downloaded, regardless of when that happens. Unlike other packet sniffers, Net panel shows the onload line. So, you can detect what is lazy loaded by seeing if they&#039;re after the onload line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave: All packet sniffers that I&#8217;ve used show everything that gets downloaded, regardless of when that happens. Unlike other packet sniffers, Net panel shows the onload line. So, you can detect what is lazy loaded by seeing if they&#8217;re after the onload line.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/11/03/firebug-net-panel-more-accurate-timing/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry..  
I am trying to figure out if the new Net panel accounts for lazy loading (it wont count images that are not yet loaded)

I&#039;d really like to test/measure performance of lazyloading vs not lazyloading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry..<br />
I am trying to figure out if the new Net panel accounts for lazy loading (it wont count images that are not yet loaded)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d really like to test/measure performance of lazyloading vs not lazyloading.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Souders</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/11/03/firebug-net-panel-more-accurate-timing/#comment-1056</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Souders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David: I recommend checking the 3.6 release notes and Honza&#039;s original blog post.

@Sergey: onload is the same as Document Complete in IE. I don&#039;t know what Start Render corresponds to.

@Dave: I don&#039;t understand the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David: I recommend checking the 3.6 release notes and Honza&#8217;s original blog post.</p>
<p>@Sergey: onload is the same as Document Complete in IE. I don&#8217;t know what Start Render corresponds to.</p>
<p>@Dave: I don&#8217;t understand the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/11/03/firebug-net-panel-more-accurate-timing/#comment-1055</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For my work, I am using a lazyloader to stop loading a few hundred thumbnails until they are needed.   Even when using this new Firebug and Firefox 3.6, I still see the images load in the Net panel. 
My script starts on Dom Ready..  I have it take all images in a certain container and change the src to /images/1x1.gif and create a new attribute called origin.  Origin keeps the correct src on file.   When someone clicks  to the next section, it loads the images and slides the section into place.. 
You can check it out here if you wish:
http://www.howcast.com/categories

so is there something I am missing?  

BTW:  in Firebug&#039;s HTML view, the images wont show up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my work, I am using a lazyloader to stop loading a few hundred thumbnails until they are needed.   Even when using this new Firebug and Firefox 3.6, I still see the images load in the Net panel.<br />
My script starts on Dom Ready..  I have it take all images in a certain container and change the src to /images/1&#215;1.gif and create a new attribute called origin.  Origin keeps the correct src on file.   When someone clicks  to the next section, it loads the images and slides the section into place..<br />
You can check it out here if you wish:<br />
<a href="http://www.howcast.com/categories" rel="nofollow">http://www.howcast.com/categories</a></p>
<p>so is there something I am missing?  </p>
<p>BTW:  in Firebug&#8217;s HTML view, the images wont show up.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey Chernyshev</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/11/03/firebug-net-panel-more-accurate-timing/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey Chernyshev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, regarding DOMContentLoaded and onload events, how does that relate to WebPageTest.org&#039;s &quot;Start Render&quot; and &quot;Document Complete&quot;?

Sergey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, regarding DOMContentLoaded and onload events, how does that relate to WebPageTest.org&#8217;s &#8220;Start Render&#8221; and &#8220;Document Complete&#8221;?</p>
<p>Sergey</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;which requires Firefox 3.6 beta). The fix included help from the Firefox team to add the actual time to each network event.&quot;

Is there any further information available about the changes in FF 3.6 that helped Firebug more accurately measure network results?  Perhaps a bug reference or an entry in the release notes somewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;which requires Firefox 3.6 beta). The fix included help from the Firefox team to add the actual time to each network event.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is there any further information available about the changes in FF 3.6 that helped Firebug more accurately measure network results?  Perhaps a bug reference or an entry in the release notes somewhere?</p>
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