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	<title>Comments on: HTTP Archive Specification: Firebug and HttpWatch</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Souders</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/10/19/http-archive-specification-firebug-and-httpwatch/comment-page-1/#comment-1074</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Souders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Yoni: Send a message to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/firebug-working-group/web/http-tracing---export-format&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Firebug Working Group&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/list&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;submit a bug&lt;/a&gt; for HAR issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Yoni: Send a message to the <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/firebug-working-group/web/http-tracing---export-format" rel="nofollow">Firebug Working Group</a> or <a href="http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/list" rel="nofollow">submit a bug</a> for HAR issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoni Mizrachi</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/10/19/http-archive-specification-firebug-and-httpwatch/comment-page-1/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoni Mizrachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great news, however I found a bug(?) that makes it impossible for me to open firebug exported har in HTTPWatch. Some of the cookies use the &quot;version&quot; attribute, in FireBug they are exported correctly but when trying to open it with HTTPWatch is says there is a problem. According to cookies spec this is a valid attribute... the har &quot;spec&quot; I found did not cover this attribute. 
Is there a central group where this kind of mismatches can be reported?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great news, however I found a bug(?) that makes it impossible for me to open firebug exported har in HTTPWatch. Some of the cookies use the &#8220;version&#8221; attribute, in FireBug they are exported correctly but when trying to open it with HTTPWatch is says there is a problem. According to cookies spec this is a valid attribute&#8230; the har &#8220;spec&#8221; I found did not cover this attribute.<br />
Is there a central group where this kind of mismatches can be reported?</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey Chernyshev</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/10/19/http-archive-specification-firebug-and-httpwatch/comment-page-1/#comment-982</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey Chernyshev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, thanks for mentioning Show Slow - I hope it is useful for the community.

As for HAR, it&#039;d be great if this kind of data can be posted to beacons by different monitoring tools so servers can store and report on this data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, thanks for mentioning Show Slow &#8211; I hope it is useful for the community.</p>
<p>As for HAR, it&#8217;d be great if this kind of data can be posted to beacons by different monitoring tools so servers can store and report on this data.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Souders</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/10/19/http-archive-specification-firebug-and-httpwatch/comment-page-1/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Souders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 04:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrick: Great news! Thanks for your support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrick: Great news! Thanks for your support.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Meenan</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/10/19/http-archive-specification-firebug-and-httpwatch/comment-page-1/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Meenan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll commit that AOL Pagetest will support HAR files in both the desktop and online versions (online first) and for both export and import (and potentially remotely through JSON URLs).  I have  most of the work done for exporting the files (just have to add the headers) and it will work with any test, including those run over a year ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll commit that AOL Pagetest will support HAR files in both the desktop and online versions (online first) and for both export and import (and potentially remotely through JSON URLs).  I have  most of the work done for exporting the files (just have to add the headers) and it will work with any test, including those run over a year ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/10/19/http-archive-specification-firebug-and-httpwatch/comment-page-1/#comment-972</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will httpwatch ever be released as a mac app?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will httpwatch ever be released as a mac app?</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Betts</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/10/19/http-archive-specification-firebug-and-httpwatch/comment-page-1/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Betts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Internet Archive does capture HTTP headers. They use the &lt;a href=&quot;http://archive-access.sourceforge.net/warc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WARC file format&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Internet Archive does capture HTTP headers. They use the <a href="http://archive-access.sourceforge.net/warc/" rel="nofollow">WARC file format</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: badulla</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/10/19/http-archive-specification-firebug-and-httpwatch/comment-page-1/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>badulla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not everybody wants to purchase an app just to read HTTP logs. There should be a way to load .har files into Firebug. Opening the file in a text editor and pasting its content into the web-based viewer is a bit convoluted, and it renders the data just like Firebug, so why not use the Firebug pane?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not everybody wants to purchase an app just to read HTTP logs. There should be a way to load .har files into Firebug. Opening the file in a text editor and pasting its content into the web-based viewer is a bit convoluted, and it renders the data just like Firebug, so why not use the Firebug pane?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never heard of HttpWatch until now.  Thanks for the info and resources; as a web programmer and avid firebug user I will definitely have to give this a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never heard of HttpWatch until now.  Thanks for the info and resources; as a web programmer and avid firebug user I will definitely have to give this a try.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Souders</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2009/10/19/http-archive-specification-firebug-and-httpwatch/comment-page-1/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Souders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rohit: Yes, I should have mentioned Net Panel must be enabled.

@Wim: That&#039;s the beautiful thing about HAR. I love HttpWatch and do so much performance analysis it&#039;s worth the cost. But if you prefer another tool, we can still share our files (eventually). I review a bunch of packet sniffers in the appendix of Even Faster Web Sites: &lt;a href=&quot;http://pagetest.wiki.sourceforge.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AOL Pagetest&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://webpagetest.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WebPagetest&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=119F3477-DCED-41E3-A0E7-D8B5CAE893A3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VRTA&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fiddlertool.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fiddler&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.charlesproxy.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Charles&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wireshark.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wireshark&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/pagedetailer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IBM Page Detailer&lt;/a&gt;. The key is - how many of these will adopt HAR? Honza pointed out that &lt;a href=&quot;http://debugbar.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DebugBar&lt;/a&gt; has already added HAR support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rohit: Yes, I should have mentioned Net Panel must be enabled.</p>
<p>@Wim: That&#8217;s the beautiful thing about HAR. I love HttpWatch and do so much performance analysis it&#8217;s worth the cost. But if you prefer another tool, we can still share our files (eventually). I review a bunch of packet sniffers in the appendix of Even Faster Web Sites: <a href="http://pagetest.wiki.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">AOL Pagetest</a>, <a href="http://webpagetest.org/" rel="nofollow">WebPagetest</a>, <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=119F3477-DCED-41E3-A0E7-D8B5CAE893A3" rel="nofollow">VRTA</a>, <a href="http://www.fiddlertool.com/" rel="nofollow">Fiddler</a>, <a href="http://www.charlesproxy.com/" rel="nofollow">Charles</a>, <a href="http://www.wireshark.org/" rel="nofollow">Wireshark</a>, and <a href="http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/pagedetailer" rel="nofollow">IBM Page Detailer</a>. The key is &#8211; how many of these will adopt HAR? Honza pointed out that <a href="http://debugbar.com/" rel="nofollow">DebugBar</a> has already added HAR support.</p>
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