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		<title>By: Tyrone Campbell</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2008/03/06/how-green-is-your-web-page/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrone Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have some great point in there but alot of guess work if you can pull out some real facts then send them to wiki im sure they would change to catched images instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have some great point in there but alot of guess work if you can pull out some real facts then send them to wiki im sure they would change to catched images instead.</p>
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		<title>By: lososis</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Offline Cost of an Online Life &#187; the billblog</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2008/03/06/how-green-is-your-web-page/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>The Offline Cost of an Online Life &#187; the billblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How Green is Your Web Page?    &#160;   &#171; My del.icio.us bookmarks for March 15th through March 16th &#124;   &#160; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Green Scene Hits Your Code &#124; latoga labs</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2008/03/06/how-green-is-your-web-page/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Green Scene Hits Your Code &#124; latoga labs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Green Scene Hits Your Code March 20, 2008 8:08 am latoga Technology Ramblings  Since my mind is on efficiency this morning (see previous post about Facebook) I wanted to share an interesting blog posting I&#8217;ve had open in a browser for a few weeks now.  Steve Sounders, web performance guru from Google and previously Yahoo, posted some interesting thoughts on how green is your web page? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Green Scene Hits Your Code March 20, 2008 8:08 am latoga Technology Ramblings  Since my mind is on efficiency this morning (see previous post about Facebook) I wanted to share an interesting blog posting I&#8217;ve had open in a browser for a few weeks now.  Steve Sounders, web performance guru from Google and previously Yahoo, posted some interesting thoughts on how green is your web page? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: User First Web &#187; links for&#160;2008-03-20</title>
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		<dc:creator>User First Web &#187; links for&#160;2008-03-20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] High Performance Web Sites :: How green is your web page? Connection between environment and site speed (tags: environment speedupyoursite performance) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Domas Mituzas</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2008/03/06/how-green-is-your-web-page/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Domas Mituzas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, I'm sure it is easy to use us as a popular example, but there're few more issues that would have to be covered:

a) We serve user-provided content, and we have to take it down from time to time. Some of it has to be taken down simply because it is vandalism, sometimes it has to be taken down because of legal reasons. That means we may want to have somewhat more control for data invalidation and purging.

b) Our content is cached in multiple layers, and by having to replace all cached documents because of single image change we trade one caching efficiency for other caching efficiency. 

c) Revalidation of hot content is probably the cheapest possible operation in webops, and single server can handle multiple thousands of requests like that a second, what reduces the carbon tons. 

And really, we think about bits like that. Actually, we built Wikipedia with 'somewhat smaller' budgets than Yahoo or Google or anyone in vicinity did. It is a non-profit operation after all. 

We constantly follow our access patterns, and adapt our caching and performance layers to them. Great to know you're poking these things too - I guess we can meet up at Velocity and discuss more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I&#8217;m sure it is easy to use us as a popular example, but there&#8217;re few more issues that would have to be covered:</p>
<p>a) We serve user-provided content, and we have to take it down from time to time. Some of it has to be taken down simply because it is vandalism, sometimes it has to be taken down because of legal reasons. That means we may want to have somewhat more control for data invalidation and purging.</p>
<p>b) Our content is cached in multiple layers, and by having to replace all cached documents because of single image change we trade one caching efficiency for other caching efficiency. </p>
<p>c) Revalidation of hot content is probably the cheapest possible operation in webops, and single server can handle multiple thousands of requests like that a second, what reduces the carbon tons. </p>
<p>And really, we think about bits like that. Actually, we built Wikipedia with &#8217;somewhat smaller&#8217; budgets than Yahoo or Google or anyone in vicinity did. It is a non-profit operation after all. </p>
<p>We constantly follow our access patterns, and adapt our caching and performance layers to them. Great to know you&#8217;re poking these things too - I guess we can meet up at Velocity and discuss more.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.stevesouders.com/blog/2008/03/06/how-green-is-your-web-page/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Philip Tellis:  Nothing says you have to gzip items on the fly.  Gzipping once and then serving hundreds of thousands to millions of times should be a pretty obvious gain.

@Noone (3): The difference between what you've said and what Steve said is that Steve's suggestions don't impact functionality.  Turning off your computer limits productivity and usefulness.  Steve's ideas saves you servers while keeping your site just as functional as it was before, in fact, it's better for your end users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Philip Tellis:  Nothing says you have to gzip items on the fly.  Gzipping once and then serving hundreds of thousands to millions of times should be a pretty obvious gain.</p>
<p>@Noone (3): The difference between what you&#8217;ve said and what Steve said is that Steve&#8217;s suggestions don&#8217;t impact functionality.  Turning off your computer limits productivity and usefulness.  Steve&#8217;s ideas saves you servers while keeping your site just as functional as it was before, in fact, it&#8217;s better for your end users.</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>erm 100w per server ?? bit  more than that I would suspect.

And increasing performance of a site will tend to increase the power required</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erm 100w per server ?? bit  more than that I would suspect.</p>
<p>And increasing performance of a site will tend to increase the power required</p>
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		<title>By: Is Your Web Server Green?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Your Web Server Green?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Philip Tellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Tellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though one could argue that turning on gzip uses more CPU, which in turn requires more power.  Might be useful to add some tested numbers to this.  Let me see if I can test this at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though one could argue that turning on gzip uses more CPU, which in turn requires more power.  Might be useful to add some tested numbers to this.  Let me see if I can test this at some point.</p>
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